Comments on: A Con Job? http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:15:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Sicheii Yazhi http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job/comment-page-1#comment-31440 Sicheii Yazhi Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:06:31 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job#comment-31440 ... admits that he is in fact a troll... … admits that he is in fact a troll…

]]> By: James http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job/comment-page-1#comment-31426 James Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:32:32 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job#comment-31426 Oops.. sorry, didn't qualify! Oops.. sorry, didn’t qualify!

]]> By: Eric http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job/comment-page-1#comment-31425 Eric Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:29:45 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job#comment-31425 <p>Blah blah blah....</p> Blah blah blah….

]]> By: James http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job/comment-page-1#comment-31385 James Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:35:41 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job#comment-31385 If anyone else fancies leaving a comments the elusive 'ed' tells me that they'd better be a. funny, b. worthwhile or c. offering some sort of bounty Dullness about me being an asshole etc. doesn't usually qualify. Unless it's <em>really well</em> put. If anyone else fancies leaving a comments the elusive ‘ed’ tells me that they’d better be a. funny, b. worthwhile or c. offering some sort of bounty

Dullness about me being an asshole etc. doesn’t usually qualify.

Unless it’s really well put.

]]> By: Disappointed http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job/comment-page-1#comment-31324 Disappointed Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:23:47 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job#comment-31324 <p>So, this is many-month-late comment man.... <strong>ooops... too late then - Ed</strong> So, this is many-month-late comment man…. ooops… too late then – Ed

]]> By: Kevin Prentiss http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job/comment-page-1#comment-25061 Kevin Prentiss Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:11:33 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job#comment-25061 <p>Right. Exactly. .... <strong> Bored now - Ed</strong></p> Right. Exactly. …. Bored now – Ed

]]> By: James http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job/comment-page-1#comment-25036 James Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:03:31 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job#comment-25036 Oh noes, I has been catstigated by month-late-comment-man. Oh noes, I has been catstigated by month-late-comment-man.

]]> By: Kevin Prentiss http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job/comment-page-1#comment-25025 Kevin Prentiss Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:17:39 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job#comment-25025 There's been much talk about the echo chamber of this conversation. It's an unfortunate dynamic that a consistent way to get noticed within the echo chamber is to behave badly. To be, essentially, bitchy. Go on the attack! Be unapologetic, then accuse the recipients of lacking humor. It's like Fox News. Or Cross Fire. Self deprecating humor always works. It's a much better place to start if the goal is foster dialogue between people. I'm all for laughing, but it doesn't work to follow offense with "be less sensitive." There’s been much talk about the echo chamber of this conversation.

It’s an unfortunate dynamic that a consistent way to get noticed within the echo chamber is to behave badly.

To be, essentially, bitchy. Go on the attack! Be unapologetic, then accuse the recipients of lacking humor.

It’s like Fox News. Or Cross Fire.

Self deprecating humor always works. It’s a much better place to start if the goal is foster dialogue between people. I’m all for laughing, but it doesn’t work to follow offense with “be less sensitive.”

]]> By: Harold Jarche » Difficult, unpleasant, messy, but necessary http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job/comment-page-1#comment-23834 Harold Jarche » Difficult, unpleasant, messy, but necessary Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:09:01 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job#comment-23834 [...] was also a discussion, or perhaps a brouhaha, around James Farmer’s criticisms of EduCon 2.0: … the real, overarching issue I have with all of this is that it’s humming [...] [...] was also a discussion, or perhaps a brouhaha, around James Farmer’s criticisms of EduCon 2.0: … the real, overarching issue I have with all of this is that it’s humming [...]

]]> By: Harold Jarche http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job/comment-page-1#comment-23833 Harold Jarche Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:55:42 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2007/a-con-job#comment-23833 In reading your original post, I think that the main criticism is in starting with axioms instead of questions. That is a valid criticism. I also agree with the criticism of "pedagogy first". What if a technology changes the pedagogy, such as the ability to connect with almost anyone, anywhere in the world, thus changing the pedagogy. Do we keep classrooms when the outside world offers so much more or do we help kids break out of the classroom? As for putting your money where your mouth is, James, you have shown by example how to foster a community of learners with Edublogs, et al. I, for one, am indebted to you for your support over the years, especially when I first started on this blogging thing. I do not view this post as a personal attack and I feel we need more critical conversations. Keep up the good work incorporating subversion in our community. In reading your original post, I think that the main criticism is in starting with axioms instead of questions. That is a valid criticism. I also agree with the criticism of “pedagogy first”. What if a technology changes the pedagogy, such as the ability to connect with almost anyone, anywhere in the world, thus changing the pedagogy. Do we keep classrooms when the outside world offers so much more or do we help kids break out of the classroom?

As for putting your money where your mouth is, James, you have shown by example how to foster a community of learners with Edublogs, et al. I, for one, am indebted to you for your support over the years, especially when I first started on this blogging thing.

I do not view this post as a personal attack and I feel we need more critical conversations. Keep up the good work incorporating subversion in our community.

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