Comments on: Elgg and WebCT, sitting in a tree… http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:15:39 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.1 hourly 1 By: The Return! at incorporated subversion http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree/comment-page-1#comment-9317 The Return! at incorporated subversion Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:51:16 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree#comment-9317 [...] Elgg and WebCT, sitting in a tree… [...] [...] Elgg and WebCT, sitting in a tree… [...]

]]> By: EdTechPost http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree/comment-page-1#comment-9315 EdTechPost Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:17:45 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree#comment-9315 <strong>Greg Ritter and Co back and blogging</strong> http://www.educateinnovate.com/ Got an email today from an old blogosphere pal, Greg Ritter, who had gone AWOL back in 2004, that he has started blogging again. Greg, the Associate Director of Research & Development at Blackboard, is part of a new... Greg Ritter and Co back and blogging

http://www.educateinnovate.com/ Got an email today from an old blogosphere pal, Greg Ritter, who had gone AWOL back in 2004, that he has started blogging again. Greg, the Associate Director of Research & Development at Blackboard, is part of a new…

]]> By: Jeremy http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree/comment-page-1#comment-9309 Jeremy Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:00:26 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree#comment-9309 I think this could be a great thing if Elgg becomes the catalyst/conduit to eventually opening up learning in the LMS to the web. One of the strengths of Elgg is in setting publishing and group permissions -- so maybe at the start, users can only publish to (and receive comments from) their class (not blogging)...but then down the road, maybe that gets expanded to the program/faculty, or even the whole school. Perhaps that would help nervous administrators see the power and wisdom in letting students really take their learning from the web into class, and from class out onto the web. Some <a href="http://www.aperto-elearning.com/?q=node/6" rel="nofollow">discussion on this issue</a> over at Sasan's blog... I think this could be a great thing if Elgg becomes the catalyst/conduit to eventually opening up learning in the LMS to the web. One of the strengths of Elgg is in setting publishing and group permissions — so maybe at the start, users can only publish to (and receive comments from) their class (not blogging)…but then down the road, maybe that gets expanded to the program/faculty, or even the whole school.

Perhaps that would help nervous administrators see the power and wisdom in letting students really take their learning from the web into class, and from class out onto the web. Some discussion on this issue over at Sasan’s blog…

]]> By: XplanaZine http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree/comment-page-1#comment-9306 XplanaZine Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:21:07 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree#comment-9306 <strong>Daily Update -- February 2, 2006</strong> Here's our take on news that matters for Monday, February 21. Today's theme is better late than never , and here are a some links to headlines about technology that is changing the way we live and learn. Gaming -- A nice article in the San Franci... Daily Update — February 2, 2006

Here’s our take on news that matters for Monday, February 21. Today’s theme is better late than never , and here are a some links to headlines about technology that is changing the way we live and learn.

Gaming — A nice article in the San Franci…

]]> By: Tama’s eLearning Blog » Blog Archive » WebCT Elgg? http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree/comment-page-1#comment-9285 Tama’s eLearning Blog » Blog Archive » WebCT Elgg? Tue, 21 Feb 2006 03:51:41 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree#comment-9285 [...] As James notes, WebCT and Elgg have come together through Curverider and Aperto. As Sasan Salari announced: I am very happy to announce that Curverider and Aperto are collaborating on an integration between the Open Source system Elgg and WebCT’s product lines. [...] [...] As James notes, WebCT and Elgg have come together through Curverider and Aperto. As Sasan Salari announced: I am very happy to announce that Curverider and Aperto are collaborating on an integration between the Open Source system Elgg and WebCT’s product lines. [...]

]]> By: Tama http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree/comment-page-1#comment-9283 Tama Tue, 21 Feb 2006 03:42:54 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree#comment-9283 While I'm cynical about WebCT's motives in all this (it's a bit like the sinking Titanic deciding to order a whole lot more lifeboats at the time they hit the iceberg) given that many universities *are* demanding a blog tool within WebCT, I've got to say that an Elgg plugin/interface which seemlessly moves between the two (<a href="http://www.aperto-elearning.com/?q=node/7" rel="nofollow">as far as I can tell</a>) is a far better option than the <a href="http://tama.edublogs.org/2006/02/02/webct-and-ahem-blogs/" rel="nofollow">internal blog tool we've been discussing in the past few weeks</a>. Having a fully functional blog tool like Elgg will, to my mind, encourage the use of blogs per se and may, indeed, lead a number of people to the conclusion that Elgg might be one of the core tools they want rather than WebCT. Perhaps WebCT/Elgg will lead to Elgg/Moodle without the diruptions of completely alien systems. However, pragmatically, WebCT isn't going to the be thrown out tomorrow by many unis, so Elgg-in-WebCT is, to my mind, a far better option in the shortterm than WebCT-without-Elgg! While I’m cynical about WebCT’s motives in all this (it’s a bit like the sinking Titanic deciding to order a whole lot more lifeboats at the time they hit the iceberg) given that many universities *are* demanding a blog tool within WebCT, I’ve got to say that an Elgg plugin/interface which seemlessly moves between the two (as far as I can tell) is a far better option than the internal blog tool we’ve been discussing in the past few weeks. Having a fully functional blog tool like Elgg will, to my mind, encourage the use of blogs per se and may, indeed, lead a number of people to the conclusion that Elgg might be one of the core tools they want rather than WebCT. Perhaps WebCT/Elgg will lead to Elgg/Moodle without the diruptions of completely alien systems.

However, pragmatically, WebCT isn’t going to the be thrown out tomorrow by many unis, so Elgg-in-WebCT is, to my mind, a far better option in the shortterm than WebCT-without-Elgg!

]]> By: Alan http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree/comment-page-1#comment-9257 Alan Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:05:38 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree#comment-9257 Very good points Harold- I thought of that soon after submitting the comment. I've released code GPlL and never really check to see if it has been "violated" (doubtful given some of my code ;-) Very good points Harold- I thought of that soon after submitting the comment. I’ve released code GPlL and never really check to see if it has been “violated” (doubtful given some of my code ;-)

]]> By: Harold Jarche http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree/comment-page-1#comment-9252 Harold Jarche Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:09:57 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree#comment-9252 If OS is OS, why do we need a GPL Violators website? http://www.gpl-violations.org/ .: There are abuses of OS. GPL or other OS licenses do not mean that you can do anything with the software. I know, I'm digressing, and it doesn't apply to this case at all. If OS is OS, why do we need a GPL Violators website? http://www.gpl-violations.org/ .: There are abuses of OS.

GPL or other OS licenses do not mean that you can do anything with the software. I know, I’m digressing, and it doesn’t apply to this case at all.

]]> By: Alan http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree/comment-page-1#comment-9251 Alan Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:51:42 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree#comment-9251 Having recently chatted with him at Northern Voices, I was going to interject on Sasan's behalf regarding his disconnection from WebCT, but he's taken care of it. I am sorry James, but open source is *open* source- you cannot be open and say, "Well it can be open everywhere except inside a CMS)." Even if you do not like it, you cannot say the goliaths cannot try and stick a wiki inside their walled garden. It will be interesting to watch ELGG grow and hope it is not a modern day version of "Animal Farm" ;-) Having recently chatted with him at Northern Voices, I was going to interject on Sasan’s behalf regarding his disconnection from WebCT, but he’s taken care of it.

I am sorry James, but open source is *open* source- you cannot be open and say, “Well it can be open everywhere except inside a CMS).” Even if you do not like it, you cannot say the goliaths cannot try and stick a wiki inside their walled garden.

It will be interesting to watch ELGG grow and hope it is not a modern day version of “Animal Farm” ;-)

]]> By: Harold Jarche http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree/comment-page-1#comment-9247 Harold Jarche Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:02:36 +0000 http://incsub.org/blog/2006/elgg-and-webct-sitting-in-a-tree#comment-9247 Thanks for the clarification Sasan, and good luck with the "small pieces loosely joined" concept, especially since one is a large piece, and you're now on the outside of WebCT. Thanks for the clarification Sasan, and good luck with the “small pieces loosely joined” concept, especially since one is a large piece, and you’re now on the outside of WebCT.

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